The nerve of some of yall who give us an attitude when you get the random. Recently I was behind a FA in line to go thru themetal detectorsSHe rang 4 times so they just said go thru no problem.. Agree that the problem stems from flight attendants being able to use this as well as pilots. 0000057317 00000 n 0000003099 00000 n I'm a 44 year flight attendant. Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. I've got nothing to hide. If any crew member wanted to cause harm they could. I think the KCM program is complete bullshit. The transportation of such items is restricted and governed by the Civil Aviation Regulations. We are talking IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE. An aircraft can board without a pilotbut not without the minimum crew of flight attendants.. and considering how long our duty days are, I don't know any flight attendants willing to leave their layover hotel a couple hours earlier. HAAAA!!! Almost every cruise ship in the world offers some sort of laundry service onboard if you need. This enhanced identity-verification and employment-confirmation system for airline pilots will make airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation by removing airline pilots from passenger screening lines. And, while doom and gloom regarding the future might be reality, there is a good chance that it will be nowhere near as bad as some try to paint it. Known Crewmember - MyKCM Login Known Crewmember TM The Known Crewmember (KCM) website allows crewmembers to register a barcode to go through security checkpoints seamlessly. A joke. Users can change airlines, barcodes, and view history all from the same account. Thanks to the A-holes that ruined this for all of us. Can we talk about the Facebook group of Pilot Wives saying that their husbands bring their food and drinks and even wine in coffee tumblers? It does appear the supercilious author of this piece, pulled out his Medallion Card and showed it to the whole worldeven if to mostly blame impoverished flight attendants for being drug mules? Why even bother with KCM? You have basic first aid. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand theKCM Rules for Useand comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. If the average traveller's time is worth $30 per hour, then an extra 20 minute delay costs $10. Pilots were the ones most often caught with a firearm in their bag. 0000009729 00000 n CAP Solo Pilot 4.1.1.1. What am I hoping to accomplish by sharing this information? 11/21/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 6/29/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 3/1/22 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, 6/23/20 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers. Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, flammable liquids, explosives, and dangerous chemicals will not be returned. If your pass has a SSSS printed on it, you must undergo selectee screening at the passenger screening checkpoint. If you combine all the flight attendants and look at the numbers is it even close to 1% of crew members doing this? Get your facts straight! I'm sorry but I simply do not want to allow anyone to be able to conduct any illegal activity via aviation; the drug crisis in the US is horrific and anyone that wants to protect their personal privileges to allow someone else to profit and kill others should simply not have those privileges. This enhancement will include retention of the crewmember selection for USP for a period of time at all KCM access points in that airport. xbbbg`b`` / When all of the flights are getting delayed, people will be wishing KCM was back. That would solve the vast majority of the issues. I hope KCM is not done away with, but kept with added safeguards to prevent abuse. I would love to see the upcoming changes on the program since I'm currently a flight attendant. On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. It takes all of us to to fly passengers. I have pre check and clear. Crewmembers may use KCM access points in or out of uniform in accordance with the identification requirements above. Stay in your uniform you wont have that problem. Considering 90% of guns are not even found when the TSA is tested by other government agencies, I'm curious how they even manage to find guns or drugs on crewmembers. A flight attendant, also known as steward / stewardess or air host / air hostess, is a member of the aircrew aboard commercial flights, many business jets and some government aircraft. Your anger and frustration brings me joy. I don't think any pilot would try to bring a family member through KCM when they understand that it just doesn't work that way. 2023 PlanePeople. Once these tasks are successfully completed, the crewmember will be allowed to proceed into the sterile area. I have witnessed them walk through checkpoints in droves with little more than a flash of a badge. How is that a thing??? However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. The "Flight Attendants" column denotes airlines whose Flight Attendants are eligible to participate in the KCM program. A: No. Then you have to listen to Its not entitlement. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. Q:Can a crewmember individually join KCM if their airline does not participate in the program? Stop worrying about pilots in flight, attendants and worry about every other employee. There weren't "delays" before KCM. Meanwhile with all this new increase of Random checks I've been bypassing KCM and just doing the regular line. As a frequent flyer Ive received far more attitude from FAs them I ever have from TSA. I'm a flight attendant with 34 years seniority. As for the flight attendant vs. pilot issue, the justification for including flight attendants was always that there simply was not enough volume to maintain KCM checkpoints just for pilots. a. Again, the TSA doesn't handle drug cases but if they do even random checks and find something that is illegal, they are going to refer it to local or federal police. Flight attendants are consistently being found to bring prohibited items (including drugs, even though that's not what TSA is looking for) through KCM. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. After all, theres big money in smuggling drugs, and perhaps some newly minted flight attendants dont feel like they have that much to lose career-wise. It is to ensure safety on public transportation, thats it. Therefore, we recommend that all Flight Attendants abide by the following rules to protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program: As a reminder, KCM is accessible only for "active" crewmembers. Done. Review: EgyptAir Lounge Cairo Airport (CAI), Lufthansas Boeing 787 Business Class: Exactly As Expected. It is only there to prevent security threats to aviation, originally hijacking then terrorist attacks. Really Will? I wish I could taste the tears of your unfathomable sadness. BTW! Security is an illusion there is no reason to subject those flying the airplane to TSA checks. There is no rolling back what the TSA currently does - like it or not. Im not attacking them personally but if you think they are some highly specialized person they are not. 0000007899 00000 n They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. One morning last summer at SAN the PreCheck line was out the West Terminal door extending half a block. trailer Crew members should: participate in their national vaccination programmes recognising that vaccination offers personal protection from infection and can assist in recovery of global connectivity; monitor themselves for fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, loss of taste, or other symptoms of COVID-19 according to . To protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program, you must abide by the following rules: Authorized flight crew members must travel in uniform. What an absolute joke that anyone thinks there is any benefit at all to safety to screen pilots at TSA checkpoints. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. No one would do it. Crewmembers will no longer be permitted to manually enter their KCM data. Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). We cant forget this and need to push back against their continued scope creep in the name of self preservation. Also, the US is rolling out more and more high tech scanners which are much faster. @ Alan -- I mean, I think the people who are actually caught with serious things (like kilos of cocaine) are facing worse punishment than just being banned from KCM Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. Pilots have a lot more to lose (significant investment in their career, inability to easily switch to a different field with similar compensation, licenses, etc) than flight attendants do. Pilots have a lot more to lose (significant investment in their career, inability to easily switch to a different field with similar compensation, licenses, etc) than flight attendants do. Things do NOT get fixed until the agency in question is FORCED into a state of change. Stay in your busted vehicle because I can tell by the way you type youre a bum at best. So, like with just about everything else good, a few ruin it for the majority. - you would really have more "professionals" and those are less likely to abuse the system. I'm a Flight Attendant for a major US Carrier and I've known of a few that have had privileges suspended for a year and of one who had her privileges permanently revoked. Once you receive the barcode card, follow the instructions on the back to register it into the KCM system. Without them, you're just an individual sitting in the gate area, getting angrier because your flight is delayed because the flight attendants are stuck in You really need to understand a few basics of airline travel. Completely agree. If your crew-member record is SPOTLESS, your random screening should be much much less. Weve seen an increasing number of people smuggling drugs and other prohibited items through these checkpoints. You probably didn't pay too much attention to this class in training because you had 30 minutes sleep the night before because of the party/orgy but somehow managed to barely pass the multiple choice "test" anyway. DepartureCheck is a Passenger and Aircraft Operator Compliance Solutions Platform, brought to you by NATA Compliance Services (NATACS). Some flight crew position names are derived from nautical terms and indicate a rank or command structure similar to that on ocean-going vessels, allowing for quick executive decision making during normal operations or emergency situations. IATA - Personalised Passport, Visa & Health travel documentation advice 0000001462 00000 n The UK is committed to doing that as well, including eliminating the liquids rule. That is exactly what Flight Attendants do-every single day! Plus I would love to see you pilots sitting in the cockpit waiting for 2 hours without being able to board. The KCM system uses a secure connection to communicate with the participating airlines crewmember database to determine the eligibility and employment status of the crewmember. H\Ak0:bf0mBmM85ld8.!gv?d}R{>Eee If being a part of a society with all of its problems is too much, there is no TSA screening for general aviation. Crewmembers traveling with pets will be directed to the passenger-screening checkpoint and screened in accordance with TSA screening procedures. Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. If the investigation results in regulatory findings, including a Warning Notice, loss of KCM privileges will continue for the period of time that TSA has determined is necessary. Crewmembers may not bring pets or pet carriers through the KCM access point. Dangerous Goods are items that may endanger the safety of an aircraft or persons on board the aircraft. And I mean to the VERY front, all the way to the front of the belt. At most: I would like to be seen as a whistle blower. US law is pretty clear that there is a legal basis for referring a suspected violator of US law to the appropriate law enforcement agency once there is a reasonable suspicious that arises out of a legitimate and legal search - which the TSA security process is. Wasting TSA time and resources that should be used with someone else. 0000005203 00000 n Incidents onboard aircraft involving Federal Air Marshals. Ill go easy on the guy that said he was a cargo pilot. What else are they catching? You can get more details about them at CBP's prohibited and restricted items list.10. This entire article was a joke and seemed more demeaning than informative. It aint gonna happen. I'm sure many blog readers have stories of this to share. 82 0 obj <>stream It's not one bit different. Again, the TSA doesn't handle drug cases but if they do even random checks and find something that is illegal, they are going to refer it to local or federal police. If you have been issued a temporary government issued photo ID and it is your only form of government issued identification, proceed to the passenger screening checkpoint or employee screening location to access the airport sterile area. Besides should you be focusing your energy on more important things like fighting the company to allow male FAs to wear blouses and heels! Flights can board with/without pilots..however, a flight cannot board without the flight attendants. If they want to look in my bag, no problem. Do you know how early we have to arrive to be on time and not get paid? Uh huh. There is more time spent in security waiting for a human to look at the images on the screen than any other process. So they pick on us instead. If your pass has a SSSS printed on it, you must undergo selectee screening at the passenger screening checkpoint. The SF system randomly selects individuals to undergo selectee screening and will identify the printed boarding pass or seat request card with a SSSS. Sign up Prohibited Items Program Prohibited Items Program Page 1 of 12 Directive 15.9.3.1 Revision 1 I. Don't have an account? The current iteration of the KCM program has been around since 2011. So there you go. If they increased the requirements - say you have to have a 2 year degree -- an EMT license, etc. 0000012492 00000 n TSA doesn't screen for drugs. If the TSA's job isn't to catch drugs, then I'm not exactly sure what this will accomplish. Crewmembers will no longer be permitted to manually enter their KCM data. Lmao you think I care about wait times and passenger volume? Let the security ppl stick to what they gotta do and you pilots can stick to being glorified bus drivers and you flight attendants can stick to being mobile vending machines. For all these keyboard cowboys, do you actually know how to Google? This is exactly why you dont want the US government telling you how to live your life or whats good for you. DGU W2VTsscpKX Ub. Its simply a raw grab for power by a federal government already out of control and unable to operate under the Constitution. That is actually the reason why some of us Flight attendant give attitude when random, not for the process itself but for the attitude of lots of like you who you can tell from far that don't care about either passenger of Flights. If you don't like going through security, then commercial aviation is not the right job for you. Yeah, like pilots dont smuggle things in either smh! TSA has implemented a standardized response from the agency for KCM suspensions and removals rather than relying on agency field operations to implement such measures. Say hello to people and ask them how they are doing. metagenics pyramid schemehow much was $50 cents worth in 1930. long haul trucking companies; blocks of bird breeding cages. NOTE: If the selected Crewmember exits the sterile area and attempts to reenter through a KCM access point during this time period, they will continue to be identified for USP. : ). Do not go through KCM. Waiters, food services and others, including TSA workers who make minimum wage and have a thankless job, not so much. Zero??? The real issue is if you wanted to smuggle something, you would just throw it away if you got random or give it to someone else to try to take it through. I have PreCheck and Ive waited at least 30 minutes several times between April and October this year. Historical flightdeck positions include: I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. Crewmembers should follow TSA instructions and not attempt to resolve the issue with TSA officers as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. Q. ENR 5. Cabin Readiness Safety & Compliance Reminder! (a handful of others choose to use this out-dated screening method from time to time because they STILL consider it to be an accepted method of secondary screening!!!) Should be required to use clear backpacks or purses to pass security/ metal detectors should be used and nothing else should be allowed on premises. Forgot your username or password? I was impressed with KCM at SFO the other day. ice axes and ice picks. On January 26, 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued an order, requiring operators to collect, store and verify documentation on the current COVID-19 status of inbound international air passengers traveling to the United States. I'm tired of regularly going to KCM and being told that I got random. Absolutely no verification of credentials or inspection of personal items. Failure to follow these rules could result in temporary or permanent loss of KCM privileges. ]m+o^tw?Mxw7{[7Clikcno9b. We do get front of the line access. If I'm not trusted, then fine. Having an off duty employee pass rider clogging up lines that they didnt subscribe/pay for is spitting into face of As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. I just assumed thats how it works pretty much everywhere. Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. endstream endobj 64 0 obj <> endobj 65 0 obj <>stream Then go deal with management messaging and calling asking why your late to the gate because you got a random search and your flight is 3 terminals away. Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023 Ben Schlappig Published: November 30, 2022 Updated: December 4, 2022 201 While exact details remain to be seen, it would appear that airline pilots and flight attendants may have to consistently start going through airport security as of next year In this post: Hotel and Transportation Issues We Need Facts! 4.1.2. We KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. The flight attendants are required to be there before the rest of the crew because they are the ones needed to board passengers. NAVIGATION WARNINGS ENR 5.1 Prohibited, Restricted, and Other Areas. box cutters. KCM is a privilege, not a right. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. A: No. What? Yeah - I have been strip searched after a hand swipe - just because I made the mistake of applying a hand moisturizer prior to going through screening.). In commercial aviation, the aircrew are called flight crew. Drones are explicitly listed as forbidden luggage items on MSC cruises. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to that crewmember, or it might involve a miscommunication with the crewmembers airline database. I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. This story is incorrect. Most of these tsa agents are regular people, lower paid, not highly educated. Seriously??? Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. Who cares if a pilot brings a gun onto a plane. Packages large enough to smuggle a sufficient quantity of and when people are searched - which IS part of the security screening process - then there is a legitimate NECESSITY to escalate something that is illegally found to the appropriate law enforcement authorities. Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTE: If the selected crewmember exits the sterile area and attempts to reenter through a KCM access point during this time period, they will continue to be identified for USP. Imagine having to wait in a security up to 3 hours when you already have to show up 1-2 hours beforehand. Unaccompanied Baggage. Then go deal with management messaging and calling asking why your late to the gate because you got a random search and your flight is 3 terminals away. She'll sometimes get that friend who says, "Hey, can you take my nephew's laptop to the United States to that our friend over there can take it to get repaired/exchanged at the store where he bought it." What? known crew member (kcm) access seatac known crew member (kcm) access seatac photos known crew member (kcm) access seatac location KCM Crewmember definition & requirements: For the purpose of the KCM Program, authorized crewmembers have been defined by the TSA as: Captains or Pilots in Command, First Officers or Co-Pilots, Flight Engineers, Flight Navigators, Flight Attendants and Load Masters for full all-cargo operations. Only 1 per person/crew member allowed (II) Safety cover is securely fitted over the heating element . 0000011580 00000 n Yes, we expect, when we get to kcm that we will just be able to walk through and it is a disappointment when we cant. My cousin is a flight attendant that flys internationally from South America to the United States. Are you EOD now? Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. Since you dont deal with people Im going to ignore the commentary on your lack of understanding why its necessary to go through an expedited process as a flight attendant. Actually, I've seen the pre- check line longer than the general boarding line! However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. A: You should remain calm and ask to speak to a Lead or Supervisory Transportation Security Officer (LTSO or STSO) to the discrepancy. This whole system is a mess now and its not only hurting crew members, but it will hurt passengers that have paid for TSA pre check to now have to wait for countless crews to go ahead of them. I am a passenger and one day I saw how nasty attitude you get to tsa for random checks. So, according to you, FAs need to go through security because of prohibited items and drugs.
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