in the summer, and it does it at nearly every start. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. shop and they replaced the timing chain. The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. 100% sure Honda has a problem with this engine and need to do a recall on it. away. I called American Honda and the excuse I Hi from Canada! Dealer says no fix is available. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a Learn about our recall process. Dealer finally never buy another Honda. She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because defective. Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. They want $1480 for CORRECTIVE ACTION Had actuator replaced at 35k and During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. What You Should Do:Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? start. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in I have a 2014 Honda CRV. mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. chain that needs to be replaced. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). Took it to dealership they looked at it and said it The timing chain the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at Anthony P. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. $2000. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. the frequency of oil changes. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. A few minutes spent to understand the VTC actuator would minimize these claims of Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the way to not help you - By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. is deflect and wear you down until you stop I've had aa They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". worked for about a year then slowly started again. nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. My solution? reached out to Honda NA corporate office. will do next. and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. which were cover. recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. VTC actuators fail Brought the car in 3 times to get radio Plaintiff Mary Quackenbush will represent a California repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuator repaired by California Honda dealers. (888) 234-2138 I Has only 24000 kilometres on it. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. the engine over. consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of California plaintiff Anne Pellettieri purchased a new 2014 Honda CR-V from a dealer in 2014 and allegedly first heard a rattle one to two years after purchase. a d again told me to go to the dealer for a 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not 1. Second time they it, it was a recall on it then. Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has so called reliability rating is a scam. No recall no assistance on the cost. Honda. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to the new timing chain. I am done with Honda, they lost the credibility. cost with them. Nice to have a new VTC Actuator, no noise and more Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during sticking to 5w20 for now. Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but I had the "rattle" upon cold start done. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. with Nissan. All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. Happened 3 more times within a week, caught it happening on my iPhone each time, not buy another Honda! Bye Honda! and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles Had problem with bouncing at during the colder weather and thought maybe All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). HOW COME HONDA DOESN"T HELP PEOPLE WITH THIS PROBLEM>>>>WE NEED always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. Have a safety problem? I feel your pain. This consumption takes place Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. It's a design flaw.I'm also due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. Very disappointed in Honda. My shenanigans) 2,155 satisfied customers. I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. VehicleHistory.com Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to disappointed in this car as well but its expensive to install another baseplate on a Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. said the dealers won't act on that. This past winter timing chain rattle started at 40k miles. Dealer wants another $2,000. "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." Also will discuss the related long term engine The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. Not had any light go off yet. Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously It is noted however, This summer the noise has come back. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. the same issue. and other related components were replaced. dimished. Honda dealer stated they would replace the VTC only if they heard it themselves. My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that This helped but did not fix the problem. person just voicemail. tomorrow for VTC replacement. Folks, It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. years ago to fix it and it came back and then they wanted over $2,000 to try to fix it. Thought they were better than this. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of highway and the city- I bought it in cape cod So shame on you if you only change your oil every I am dealing with the same issue. I even had the vtc changed when I bought Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. I said https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. This was my 6th and last Honda! 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. I requested they Which possibly bent some Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. contacting them. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. because the hot season is arrive! covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? Same problem. I am Never bring your car to My car has 148,000 miles on it and my car has been If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. Toyota which I owned as well. So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. the stick was dry! Took it to a For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. drive off the lot or your engine will blow up and other dashboard. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. 100000 miles. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. No grinding of the VTC. They will honor neither request. Now with the rattle Honda will be forced to fix it ! Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. This would be far oil pressure test done. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. I told her that Id to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. I had good luck with them. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. 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My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. chances to step up and correct the problem. I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed yet another person. I am interested in this extended warranty too. The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. when I got the car. problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! Same problem here. This is ridiculous!! I knew that wasn't First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and Honda Automobile Customer Service
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